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Originally posted by Istabraq
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Even though I think CC has a big shout of winning, but could the Tiz quote been deployed to scare away others to go for the Ryanair? He's obviously doing sometyhing right at home with his horses. -
The noises are strong, Paddy B was quoted as saying another half mile and CC would have gone further clear in the King George, and Tizzard has gone into more detail on the extent of the breathing difficulties the horse had before last Summer.
I've never been confident but I am getting more hopeful by the day.
I just wonder if the horse had been trained by Mullins would he still be 6/1, hacked up in a Charlie Hall, demolished a quality Betfair field and got up to win a King George the front two a country mile clear of the Ryanair fav and Hennessy winner.
The reason for my comment was to see whether others were starting to respect his chances...Comment
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I think his chance has to be respected Isty, especially in light of Tizzards bullishness, and, as you say, with a deeper explanation of his op. I've always been a fan of CC but have been dismissive of his chance in the Gold cup because of past doubts over his ability to stay. I would add that his view that CC would have gone further clear over a greater distance would be equally aided by Vautour clearly not staying as his charge staying well, so I'm in the "will need to see it to believe it camp" but I would think his chances are helped by being such a great jumperOriginally posted by Istabraq View PostComment
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Trainers and jockeys are confident in their own horses, fair enough re Tizzard and Brennan, then you get comments from Ruby to suit his needs for winners at the festival, re run Vautour in Ryannair and Djackadam in Gold Cup and I'll have two chances to win instead of one, fair enough, but for me I dont read too much into these comments, if it was as easy as listening to the jockeys and trainers at the preview nights and hanging off their words of wisdom then the bookies would be cleaned out if their views were proved to be right.Brennan said right after the King George...I'm not going to lie there wasnt much left in the locker....now he's saying another half mile and he would have went further clear....funny that!!Comment
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Hey guys, hope you're all wedged up for the fest.
Paddy Brennan straight after the King George
"I'm not going to lie and say there was loads there, I got to the bottom of the tank but if any man is going to get him back in that sort of form for the Gold Cup it's Colin Tizzard.
CC's stamina doubts and age would worry me.
I had a cheeky fiver on Don Cossack at 75/1 on the betfair nearly 12 months ago, but i'm not sure about him. Coming from a 2m4f prep race is dodgy in my opinion. Can't remember many winners doing that.
Vautour for me with a saver on Don Poli. If the grounds quick i'll have an each way tickle on Holywell at a massive price
Last edited by donka; 26 February 2016, 10:41 PM.Comment
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Cue Card was undoubtedly on fumes at the end of the King George. Paddy Brennan has a history of getting carried away with preview night comments.
When he described Khyber Kim as Ferrari-like in the Greatwood, that may have been the flashiest bit of patter.
That said, the closer we get to the Festival, the one horse I fear the most is Cue Card. I'm up to my eyes on Vautour.Comment
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Do we think this is the best renewel in years? Really hard to pin down. Whilst i respect CC, i have never been a lover, i can't see it here. Last year the rain came for Many Clouds and he blew it and then came out on ground he's not known to like over the longer trip and wins the National! So you never know but i really like DC, blocked off in running last year he was finishing like a real stayer. He'lll get the trip i and i thought he had CC in his sites before falling in the King George. If he stays up he'll go close. I might have a saver on Don Poli though, who after watching last years fest yesterday does worry me a bit.Comment
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Cooper was later on RSA Chase contender No More Heroes for Gordon Elliott as he jumped in company with King George faller Don Cossack, ridden by Russell. Elliott said: “The two of them were very good, I couldn’t be happier. Davy said he [Don Cossack] could have gone round again, I thought the two of them worked very well.
“Davy sat on him there, Bryan has to make a decision on which one he is going to ride. I would have no problem with Davy riding him.”
Russell, who won the Gold Cup on Lord Windermere in 2014, said: “He went well and he jumped great.” Asked if he would like to ride him in the Gold Cup, he said: “I’d be delighted to ride any Gold Cup horse.”Comment
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here is one for you
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Updates from the yard. Coneygree is recovering at a flying pace enjoying sara riding him out again. #watchthisspaceComment
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I can't have Coneygree again, surely not, this year is much much tougherOriginally posted by Old Vic View PostComment
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Gordon Elliott visit: If Cooper chooses Don Poli, the trainer has options- Davy Russell, Richard Johnson or Barry GeraghtyComment
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Not often you see a quote like this from a trainer in public regarding a jockey. Tweeted by Channel 4 racing.
Quote of the day from G Elliott: "Don Cossack got a deplorable ride from Bryan Cooper in the Ryanair." Still wants him on horse for Gold CupComment
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Fair play to Gordon, I was waiting on Don Cossack for about £1,500 that day and couldn't believe what I was watching.
If Cooper picks Don Poli, which looks a done deal now, Gordon will be delighted with Davy Russell.Comment
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But Elliott said: "I don't know if Bryan is going to ride him (Don Cossack).
"I hope he does, but if he doesn't, I'll have my arm around him as he's a big part of our team.
"He might ride Don Poli (pictured below), he might ride Road To Riches, he might ride Valseur Lido, I don't know.
"I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't ride our horse. The Willie Mullins factor is a lot bigger than the Gordon Elliott factor.
"No matter what anyone says, if Willie bounces out and has three winners on Tuesday, it has to be at the back of your mind.
"I think if the ground came up on the softer side, Bryan would definitely ride Don Poli.
"If he doesn't ride Don Cossack, Davy Russell is there, Barry Geraghty is there and there's Richard Johnson. All them lads don't have rides in the Gold Cup.
"Davy sat on him the other day and I wouldn't have any problem with him riding the horse.
"There was really nothing to him riding the horse the other day. It just made sense for Bryan to ride No More Heroes as he'll definitely be riding him in the RSA.
"Cheltenham is a long way away and there won't be a shortage of jockeys to ride him.
"Bryan says he won't decide until declaration time what he's going to ride. I'm sure in the back of his head he knows what he's going to ride, but he's not telling any of us.
"There'll be no pressure on him. I'm hoping I'll win the Gold Cup, but if I don't and he's on another horse I'll be cheering him on."
Elliott had suggested Don Cossack might be fitted with cheekpieces in the Gold Cup, but Elliott said: "I'm 99.9 per cent sure he won't have any headgear.
"Around Leopardstown the other day he jumped and travelled and did everything right and if the ground came up on the better side he definitely won't.
"If it came up on the softer side he might, but I don't think he will.
"I was delighted with him in Leopardstown the other day.
"He'll have one more nice piece of work. He'll do plenty of cantering at home and will have one more day away and that will be it."Comment
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