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2015 Supreme Novices Hurdle

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  • #76
    I dont see how some of these pro punters think.Is it just a case of of picking a couple of outsiders and hoping for the best.If either of these two make the frame in the Supreme I'm giving it all up

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    • #77
      Originally posted by iainmcf View Post
      I dont see how some of these pro punters think.Is it just a case of of picking a couple of outsiders and hoping for the best.If either of these two make the frame in the Supreme I'm giving it all up
      Seedling seems to be an improving versatile horse. Though hard to judge on the opposition he's beat.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by iainmcf View Post
        I dont see how some of these pro punters think.Is it just a case of of picking a couple of outsiders and hoping for the best.If either of these two make the frame in the Supreme I'm giving it all up
        I punt mainly like that myself

        Vautour was the first favourite to win Supreme for a stretch.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by mayo View Post

          Vautour was the first favourite to win Supreme for a stretch.
          Well pointed out Mayo! Can WM actually do it 2 years in a row let alone 2 favs? Must have been decent odds for back to back favs.

          I am happy that Douvan is so short. Makes plenty of value in the others and you will get the same payout if not more for a place than 7/4. Punters have more chance to win this way.

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          • #80
            Makes good sense to look against the short price fav if you can find a viable long priced alternative, I just dont see it re seedling and bentelimar but each to their own.

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            • #81
              Its one of those races where you stuggle to pick 10 anti-post runners guaranteed to run.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by loveracing View Post
                Well pointed out Mayo! Can WM actually do it 2 years in a row let alone 2 favs? Must have been decent odds for back to back favs.

                I am happy that Douvan is so short. Makes plenty of value in the others and you will get the same payout if not more for a place than 7/4. Punters have more chance to win this way.
                Would be 3 now for Willie ....the world has changed

                his second string won't be 40/1 again anytime soon.

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                • #83
                  One runner that I have had an each way bet on in this race at 50/1 is Vago Collonges. To factors that will be in his favour for Cheltenham are the stronger gallop and better ground. Runs over 2m at Kempton next Saturday.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Mytentoryours View Post
                    One runner that I have had an each way bet on in this race at 50/1 is Vago Collonges. To factors that will be in his favour for Cheltenham are the stronger gallop and better ground. Runs over 2m at Kempton next Saturday.
                    I think VC will be running further at the festival.

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                      • #86
                        Wow, thanks for that Tenty.

                        Good ground will defo suit, will keep an eye on this one.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                          Seedling tipped by Matt Tombs too along with Shay Barry's horse.


                          There are two I like at big prices though. Seedling (33/1) is a 2nd season novice on a sharp upward curve. He’s won all 3 runs this season and the form has worked out really well. In his last victory at Cheltenham over 2m1f, he beat Some Plan, (who received 4lb,) 1½l. Some Plan bolted up in a good novice at Musselburgh next time. The 3rd, Padge, was beaten 25l and won next time. Warren Greatrex yard has been a bit out of sorts recently, but Seedling is apparently on course for the race and he looks too big a price, especially NRNB.

                          I knew it would take a huge price to tempt me into some each-way value against the Mullins battalions – and at 50/1 Bentelimar has done just that. He’s been really progressive since being switched from Philip Fenton to Shay Barry, winning a novice handicap at Leopardstown at Christmas off 126, and he was then impressive when winning a listed 2m novice at Punchestown last time.

                          He gave All Hell Let Loose 3lb there and beat him 3½l with the useful Mr Diablo and two of Willie Mullins entries for the Festival Grade 1 novice hurdles, Avant Tout and Aminabad, behind. I wouldn’t want to take such a line of form too literally, but in the Grade 1 Royal Bond, All Hell Let Loose was 5l 2nd to Nichols Canyon on 6lb worse terms than he met Bentelimar here.

                          Bentelimar didn’t jump that well at Punchestown, but he’d jumped better the time before at Leopardstown – and might prefer going left-handed. He showed a real turn of foot between the last two hurdles at Punchestown, which suggested he’ll be able to hold his position in the Supreme. If he puts in a clear round, he could easily be in the mix.
                          I just had a little ap bet on Seedling incase Padge wins tomorrow.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by loveracing View Post
                            Wow, thanks for that Tenty.

                            Good ground will defo suit, will keep an eye on this one.
                            Things might have moved on ...Nicholls was quoted in press earlier this week saying he might not have any runners in the novice hurdles

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                            • #89
                              The Nicholls quote in RP on Suoreme was that " I think VC will end up at Aintree where a flat track will suit him after a run in the Dovecote and I don't think I will have a runner in the race "

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                                The Nicholls quote in RP on Suoreme was that " I think VC will end up at Aintree where a flat track will suit him after a run in the Dovecote and I don't think I will have a runner in the race "
                                Cheers OV. A bit of a shame that but obviously Wylie has a live candidate in each novice hurdle anyway.

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