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  • #76
    Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
    Great Stat

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Any concern the effect of cheekpieces will wear off with Silviniaco Conti? PFN 1st time CPs: 28%, 2TO: 9%, 3TO: 5%.</p>— Tony Keenan (@RacingTrends) <a href="https://twitter.com/RacingTrends/status/559462290152751104">January 25, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    When you add that to his dodgy Cheltenham form Conti has to be taken on.

    Id rather be on Djakadam at 16s NRNB.

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    • #77
      For me Many Clouds didn't finish far enough ahead of Dynaste, who looks a complete non stayer to me, to be a potential Gold cup winner. Given the extra pace plus another furlong up the hill, and the closing presence of proven stayers with good track records i think there will be one or two at least that get past him, Lord Windermere still looks like the one to me, Jim Culloty is only interested in the one day for this fella.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by MrMcGoldrick View Post
        For me Many Clouds didn't finish far enough ahead of Dynaste, who looks a complete non stayer to me, to be a potential Gold cup winner. Given the extra pace plus another furlong up the hill, and the closing presence of proven stayers with good track records i think there will be one or two at least that get past him, Lord Windermere still looks like the one to me, Jim Culloty is only interested in the one day for this fella.
        Was Many clouds idling

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        • #79
          Sam Winner will head straight for the Betfred Cheltenham Gold Cup without the aid of another run.

          Paul Nicholls' eight-year-old has come alive over fences this term, with big-race victories at Cheltenham and Aintree backed up by a pleasing third in the Lexus Chase at Leopardstown.

          And with four Cheltenham victories already in safe-keeping, owner Angela Yeoman hopes Sam Winner's prowess at the track will again serve him well in the big one on March 13.

          She said: "He's really very well and we're very happy with him.

          "He's had a little rest during the winter and is ready to go again.

          "He seems to have grown up, which has been really pleasing to watch this season.

          "He will not run before Cheltenham but I've absolutely no idea who will ride him in the Gold Cup - that's for Paul to work out.

          "It has surprised me how good he has been in the wet, but I really think the deciding point (in the Gold Cup) will be the Cheltenham hill."

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
            Great Stat

            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Any concern the effect of cheekpieces will wear off with Silviniaco Conti? PFN 1st time CPs: 28%, 2TO: 9%, 3TO: 5%.</p>— Tony Keenan (@RacingTrends) <a href="https://twitter.com/RacingTrends/status/559462290152751104">January 25, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
            Great spot.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Lester View Post
              Was Many clouds idling
              If you back MC then you got to back HDO at 40-1.
              3 & 3/4L behind in the Hennesy. First run for 6 months also giving 6lbs has more value.

              Both ground dependent though so not for me.
              It is probably best to bet on the day for this race. SC will always be favourite so there will always be value in the others.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by loveracing View Post
                If you back MC then you got to back HDO at 40-1.
                3 & 3/4L behind in the Hennesy. First run for 6 months also giving 6lbs has more value.

                Both ground dependent though so not for me.
                It is probably best to bet on the day for this race. SC will always be favourite so there will always be value in the others.
                Agree HDO is a soft ground beast but is Many Clouds really ground dependent ?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by mayo View Post
                  Agree HDO is a soft ground beast but is Many Clouds really ground dependent ?
                  I don't think MC has won or been even close to winning on good ground? Maybe I am wrong and he is a different horse now.

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                  • #84
                    Must try and rig out a few quotes - point taken though

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                    • #85
                      A fair bit of love for RTR on my timeline but

                      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/rossmoyno7">@rossmoyno7</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RacingTrends">@RacingTrends</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JamieHeffo">@JamieHeffo</a> 1996 last time a horse won the GC without going around cheltenham before, can't have RTR but gd luck</p>&mdash; Grant Griffiths (@grant_griffiths) <a href="https://twitter.com/grant_griffiths/status/563055356390440960">February 4, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Old Vic View Post
                        A fair bit of love for RTR on my timeline but

                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/rossmoyno7">@rossmoyno7</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RacingTrends">@RacingTrends</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JamieHeffo">@JamieHeffo</a> 1996 last time a horse won the GC without going around cheltenham before, can't have RTR but gd luck</p>— Grant Griffiths (@grant_griffiths) <a href="https://twitter.com/grant_griffiths/status/563055356390440960">February 4, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                        It's so difficult for a trainer to have a horse well enough to win a major chase at Christmas then have it in peak condition for the Gold cup, I think that's what seperates the great trainers from the others. It will be a very impressive feat to win the Blue Ribband with RTR, Mullins Culloty and, maybe, Henderson certainly left something to work on with Boston Bob, Lord Windermere and Bobsworth, I would have similar concerns for MC, has already been asked to peak twice this season, still it can be done so it will be interesting.

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                        • #87
                          ^ I think this is true. RTR won the Galway Plate ...on the go a long time.

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                          • #88
                            Denman Chase Winners

                            <iframe src="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/11b7jhw-SIm2ClDcq1foRmXHrAQoAreAhW9FX1_40jqI/embed?start=true&loop=true&delayms=3000" frameborder="0" width="660" height="400" allowfullscreen="true" mozallowfullscreen="true" webkitallowfullscreen="true"></iframe>

                            6/9 winners went on to contest the Gold Cup finishing 11893F

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                            • #89
                              <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Looks like <a href="https://twitter.com/Ruby_Walsh">@Ruby_Walsh</a> has a tough call to make ...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/notthelastone?src=hash">#notthelastone</a> <a href="http://t.co/rZqHfMn7pZ">pic.twitter.com/rZqHfMn7pZ</a></p>&mdash; Fat Jockey (@FatJockeyTips) <a href="https://twitter.com/FatJockeyTips/status/563653824330887168">February 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
                              <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                              • #90
                                Looking at PP betting for Gold Cup maybe Ruby is swaying towards Djakadam over Boston Bob,Sunday's Hennesey is going to be informative re the chances of Boston Bob.

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